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		<title>By: Kanyon</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds that you don&#039;t hate wrestling in its total, but rather the American product I refer to as sports entertainment. This holds less true for TNA but ultimately they are just as guilty for selling out quality for TV time. 2 matches in 1 hour and then the rest of the time is like 30 minutes of soap opera story bullshit. I can&#039;t blame your for any of that. However you seem to imply that you don&#039;t hate puro. If thats the case the only option isn&#039;t paying for it, there are plenty of places to get puro from many promotions. Hell search for your favorite japanese wrestlers on youtube and you will be suprised what you find. Its not DVD quality but if you want that then you have to shell out a few bucks. 

I can&#039;t fault you for giving up american wrestling. I did long ago. I keep up with TNA since it doesn&#039;t offend me and occasionally offers something worthwhile. But WWE will never get me watching again. Even if Smackdown has improved as much as I hear it has. 

So rather than write of all of wrestling, see what you can get in the way of puro and you may find you don&#039;t want to let it go. If it wasn&#039;t for stuff like Dragon Gate and Noah I probably would have gotten bored with TNA and just quit watching wrestling all together. 

I&#039;ve heard people say it would change American wrestling if ROH had a tv show. The truth is that it wouldn&#039;t change anything. It would have to become like TNA to survive. I just don&#039;t know that American TV will ever see anything like japanese wrestling. And surely Vince will never want it to happen because as exciting as some of WWE guys may be on the mic, they can&#039;t hang with alot of the wrestlers in ROH on the mat. But Vince has the power, and until something changes American wrestling won&#039;t be changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds that you don&#8217;t hate wrestling in its total, but rather the American product I refer to as sports entertainment. This holds less true for TNA but ultimately they are just as guilty for selling out quality for TV time. 2 matches in 1 hour and then the rest of the time is like 30 minutes of soap opera story bullshit. I can&#8217;t blame your for any of that. However you seem to imply that you don&#8217;t hate puro. If thats the case the only option isn&#8217;t paying for it, there are plenty of places to get puro from many promotions. Hell search for your favorite japanese wrestlers on youtube and you will be suprised what you find. Its not DVD quality but if you want that then you have to shell out a few bucks. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t fault you for giving up american wrestling. I did long ago. I keep up with TNA since it doesn&#8217;t offend me and occasionally offers something worthwhile. But WWE will never get me watching again. Even if Smackdown has improved as much as I hear it has. </p>
<p>So rather than write of all of wrestling, see what you can get in the way of puro and you may find you don&#8217;t want to let it go. If it wasn&#8217;t for stuff like Dragon Gate and Noah I probably would have gotten bored with TNA and just quit watching wrestling all together. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard people say it would change American wrestling if ROH had a tv show. The truth is that it wouldn&#8217;t change anything. It would have to become like TNA to survive. I just don&#8217;t know that American TV will ever see anything like japanese wrestling. And surely Vince will never want it to happen because as exciting as some of WWE guys may be on the mic, they can&#8217;t hang with alot of the wrestlers in ROH on the mat. But Vince has the power, and until something changes American wrestling won&#8217;t be changing.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Vilhauer</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2780</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Vilhauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  *rolls eyes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  *rolls eyes*</p>
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		<title>By: Monty Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2779</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You suck......PERIOD!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You suck&#8230;&#8230;PERIOD!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: liger05</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2758</link>
		<dc:creator>liger05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I wouldn&#039;t have found puroresu, I today would not be watching pro-wrestling.

As soon as I found puroresu in 1998 the WWE became a joke to me and a waste of time.  I no longer had time for the wacky storylines and bogus in work action which was more like ballet.  I had time for ECW and today will watch ROH but the WWE and TNA is just not for me and unless something drastic happens I don&#039;t think it ever will be.

Puroresu has taken a downfall with NJPW and AJPW shadows of their former selfs however their will always be enough good matches to keep me in love with the sport. 

Get back to watching Puroresu, check out Noah and you won&#039;t be disappointed.  Their is enough talent in Noah to keep you happy.  Death Valley Driver message board has enough goodies on their if you don&#039;t want to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I wouldn&#8217;t have found puroresu, I today would not be watching pro-wrestling.</p>
<p>As soon as I found puroresu in 1998 the WWE became a joke to me and a waste of time.  I no longer had time for the wacky storylines and bogus in work action which was more like ballet.  I had time for ECW and today will watch ROH but the WWE and TNA is just not for me and unless something drastic happens I don&#8217;t think it ever will be.</p>
<p>Puroresu has taken a downfall with NJPW and AJPW shadows of their former selfs however their will always be enough good matches to keep me in love with the sport. </p>
<p>Get back to watching Puroresu, check out Noah and you won&#8217;t be disappointed.  Their is enough talent in Noah to keep you happy.  Death Valley Driver message board has enough goodies on their if you don&#8217;t want to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime Kobashi</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2755</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime Kobashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i understand where you are coming from with the state that pro wrestling is today. sometimes i do want to turn off WWE Raw or just skip it this week. i dont blame the state of the wrestling just by watching the WWE, i look at it as blaming the state of wrestling because it is going thru a down period. Just wait and you&#039;ll see that the wrestling industry will pick up soon. and dude, become a wrestling fan again. dont judge the industry just from what the shit the WWE produces. like one of the guys said above, get back to Puroresu, and watch a man called Kenta Kobashi and tell me this guy wont get you back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i understand where you are coming from with the state that pro wrestling is today. sometimes i do want to turn off WWE Raw or just skip it this week. i dont blame the state of the wrestling just by watching the WWE, i look at it as blaming the state of wrestling because it is going thru a down period. Just wait and you&#8217;ll see that the wrestling industry will pick up soon. and dude, become a wrestling fan again. dont judge the industry just from what the shit the WWE produces. like one of the guys said above, get back to Puroresu, and watch a man called Kenta Kobashi and tell me this guy wont get you back.</p>
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		<title>By: black marks on wood pulp &#187; Thanks Puroresu Power!</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2754</link>
		<dc:creator>black marks on wood pulp &#187; Thanks Puroresu Power!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Hater</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2752</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t fault you for doing this. A lot of the times I watch American wrestling I feel the same way... such as watching Scott Taylor winning with that disgusting WORM. It&#039;s understandable, Vince McMahon has created a product doomed to kill off the intricacies fans enjoyed in order elevate himself as far as it can go. Stealing indy ideas and adapting them to his own tastes is normal Tuesday to him. Business is business, and Vince is as ruthless as he feels he needs be.

Vince McMahon never limited his interest to wrestling, but he did overextend himself at the cost of his base viewers. It&#039;s about the money. Always is. Vince is motivated to obtain it. His base viewership doesn&#039;t have the money that keeps his machine running, so he must use shock and awe. This translates to blatant stupidity inside and outside the ring, even from top talent. They&#039;re willing to do it partially because Vince pays better; no one faults them for it, nor should they.

It&#039;s tough watching what something you once considered exclusive to your kind get warped by mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t fault you for doing this. A lot of the times I watch American wrestling I feel the same way&#8230; such as watching Scott Taylor winning with that disgusting WORM. It&#8217;s understandable, Vince McMahon has created a product doomed to kill off the intricacies fans enjoyed in order elevate himself as far as it can go. Stealing indy ideas and adapting them to his own tastes is normal Tuesday to him. Business is business, and Vince is as ruthless as he feels he needs be.</p>
<p>Vince McMahon never limited his interest to wrestling, but he did overextend himself at the cost of his base viewers. It&#8217;s about the money. Always is. Vince is motivated to obtain it. His base viewership doesn&#8217;t have the money that keeps his machine running, so he must use shock and awe. This translates to blatant stupidity inside and outside the ring, even from top talent. They&#8217;re willing to do it partially because Vince pays better; no one faults them for it, nor should they.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough watching what something you once considered exclusive to your kind get warped by mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: kobashi</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2751</link>
		<dc:creator>kobashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont blame you for giving up on the WWE and TNA.  i havent watched a WWE PPV in 8 years!

but get back into puroresu man!  your love will come back believe me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont blame you for giving up on the WWE and TNA.  i havent watched a WWE PPV in 8 years!</p>
<p>but get back into puroresu man!  your love will come back believe me..</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Vilhauer</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2750</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Vilhauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should get yourself checked I don&#039;t remember asking anyone to agree with me.  Quit watching Fox News, you&#039;re being confrontational for no reason.

I decided to stop watching good matches from Japan and the Indys because I didn&#039;t want to pay for them.  Paying to watch wrestling is something I don&#039;t hold too highly on my list of priorities.

The porno thing was clever though, I&#039;ll give you that.  A little off base, but clever.  I think Porno would be like a steady diet of backyard wrestling -- your point would have made more sense if you used crappy big budget movies in its place -- like MI:3 or 2 Fast 2 Furious, etc.

The sense is in this:  My perception of what wrestling is and has become, along with the fact that the industry is about 75% lame nowadays and, additionally, that it&#039;s not that culturally stimulating to me anymore, leads naturally to the fact that I don&#039;t watch wrestling.  It&#039;s a pretty simple rant.

Wait, it&#039;s not a rant.  A rant is to speak or write in an angry or violent manner.  This was just me clarifying that I don&#039;t hate wrestling, and I don&#039;t think people who watch wrestling are dumb, but just that I don&#039;t like to watch it and the reasons why I don&#039;t.  Don&#039;t take it so personally -- do you work for the industry or something?  Are you secretly Bob Ryder?

Anyway, thanks for the insults.  I appreciate hearing that I&#039;m screwed up by some guy who doesn&#039;t even leave a name or real address.  Pretty gutsy.

Come again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should get yourself checked I don&#8217;t remember asking anyone to agree with me.  Quit watching Fox News, you&#8217;re being confrontational for no reason.</p>
<p>I decided to stop watching good matches from Japan and the Indys because I didn&#8217;t want to pay for them.  Paying to watch wrestling is something I don&#8217;t hold too highly on my list of priorities.</p>
<p>The porno thing was clever though, I&#8217;ll give you that.  A little off base, but clever.  I think Porno would be like a steady diet of backyard wrestling &#8212; your point would have made more sense if you used crappy big budget movies in its place &#8212; like MI:3 or 2 Fast 2 Furious, etc.</p>
<p>The sense is in this:  My perception of what wrestling is and has become, along with the fact that the industry is about 75% lame nowadays and, additionally, that it&#8217;s not that culturally stimulating to me anymore, leads naturally to the fact that I don&#8217;t watch wrestling.  It&#8217;s a pretty simple rant.</p>
<p>Wait, it&#8217;s not a rant.  A rant is to speak or write in an angry or violent manner.  This was just me clarifying that I don&#8217;t hate wrestling, and I don&#8217;t think people who watch wrestling are dumb, but just that I don&#8217;t like to watch it and the reasons why I don&#8217;t.  Don&#8217;t take it so personally &#8212; do you work for the industry or something?  Are you secretly Bob Ryder?</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the insults.  I appreciate hearing that I&#8217;m screwed up by some guy who doesn&#8217;t even leave a name or real address.  Pretty gutsy.</p>
<p>Come again!</p>
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		<title>By: Some Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.blackmarks.net/2006/03/20/more-complete-thoughts-on-professional-wrestling/#comment-2747</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So ultimately, your complaint is that the wrestling industry has &#039;done you wrong&#039; -- primarily because YOU DECIDED to stop watching good matches from Japan and the Indys, and chose to focus 100% on the garbage that the WWE produces? 

And you dismiss all the great effort that wrestlers from Dragon Gate, NOAH, ROH, TNA, etc. are putting forth on a nightly basis, simply because Vince McMahon ran some tasteless angles? 

That&#039;s like renting porno movies exclusively for several months, and then saying movies in general are all meaningless filth - and that you&#039;ll never enjoy a Jodie Foster or Denzel Washington film again as a result.

YOUR ENTIRE RANT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. The fact that your thought process is this screwed up is one thing - but to think that other people shoumld read it and agree with you? That&#039;s borderline retarded. 

Get yourself checked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So ultimately, your complaint is that the wrestling industry has &#8216;done you wrong&#8217; &#8212; primarily because YOU DECIDED to stop watching good matches from Japan and the Indys, and chose to focus 100% on the garbage that the WWE produces? </p>
<p>And you dismiss all the great effort that wrestlers from Dragon Gate, NOAH, ROH, TNA, etc. are putting forth on a nightly basis, simply because Vince McMahon ran some tasteless angles? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s like renting porno movies exclusively for several months, and then saying movies in general are all meaningless filth &#8211; and that you&#8217;ll never enjoy a Jodie Foster or Denzel Washington film again as a result.</p>
<p>YOUR ENTIRE RANT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. The fact that your thought process is this screwed up is one thing &#8211; but to think that other people shoumld read it and agree with you? That&#8217;s borderline retarded. </p>
<p>Get yourself checked.</p>
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